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		<title>By: jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 07:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe 911 was America&#039;s Karma for dropping Fat Man and Little Boy in Japan?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe 911 was America&#8217;s Karma for dropping Fat Man and Little Boy in Japan?</p>
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		<title>By: Karen Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dalai Lama has convinced Richard Gere, Uma Thurman, Harrison Ford, John Ackerly, John Melnicki, Sharon Stone… etc to do his dirty work of fabricating &amp; telling lies about Tibet &amp; Tibetans. Tibet is an autonomous region which is self-ruled by the local residents.  There are many ethnic groups living in Tibet such as Lhoba, Moinba, Naxi, NU, Drung, Mongolian, Sherpa, Han, Hui, and Deng.

Over the years China have built many hospitals, schools, colleges, universities, roads, and a railway to carry fresh vegetables, fruits to Lhasa at a bargain price.  The Dalai Lama created more troubles for the people in Tibet by making their life miserable &amp; unbearable.  Tibetans used to die at a very young age due to drinking very high fat content yak (Tibetan cattle) milk.  It was the Han who brought them daily supplies of tea to deal with high fat in their diet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dalai Lama has convinced Richard Gere, Uma Thurman, Harrison Ford, John Ackerly, John Melnicki, Sharon Stone… etc to do his dirty work of fabricating &amp; telling lies about Tibet &amp; Tibetans. Tibet is an autonomous region which is self-ruled by the local residents.  There are many ethnic groups living in Tibet such as Lhoba, Moinba, Naxi, NU, Drung, Mongolian, Sherpa, Han, Hui, and Deng.</p>
<p>Over the years China have built many hospitals, schools, colleges, universities, roads, and a railway to carry fresh vegetables, fruits to Lhasa at a bargain price.  The Dalai Lama created more troubles for the people in Tibet by making their life miserable &amp; unbearable.  Tibetans used to die at a very young age due to drinking very high fat content yak (Tibetan cattle) milk.  It was the Han who brought them daily supplies of tea to deal with high fat in their diet.</p>
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		<title>By: qingdaobaby45</title>
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		<dc:creator>qingdaobaby45</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 02:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wengan is part of China! We must not let evil separatists from western let us split country! Police must stop evil violent gangsters</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wengan is part of China! We must not let evil separatists from western let us split country! Police must stop evil violent gangsters</p>
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		<title>By: Ruba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 07:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh btw, Mr Darrell, surely it&#039;s plain to see that Stone&#039;s intimation about karma is at the least insensitive and tasteless. One of our Aussie heroes in Steve Irwin was stung to death by a stingray. Another local star in Germaine Greer opined that Steve, who rocketed to fame by filming, poking and generally annoying various animals, may have brought it on himself. The assertion was universally condemned as malicious and in bad taste, because of a universal respect and empathy for death.


In this case, the link&#039;s not even logical, with the supposed karmic retribution falling on a completely different party (or more accurately, 60,000 parties, half of which are Tibetan) to the supposed offender. Let&#039;s take the Irwin analogy a little further. If Greer had said Steve brought his death on himself because he slapped his daughter for breaking her mother&#039;s vase, do you think Aussies would have liked that?


Your ridiculous refusal to admit that Stone&#039;s comment is revolting makes it obvious that it&#039;s you that is trying to make some sort of political hay. Never let logic stand in the way of some China-bashing, hey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh btw, Mr Darrell, surely it&#8217;s plain to see that Stone&#8217;s intimation about karma is at the least insensitive and tasteless. One of our Aussie heroes in Steve Irwin was stung to death by a stingray. Another local star in Germaine Greer opined that Steve, who rocketed to fame by filming, poking and generally annoying various animals, may have brought it on himself. The assertion was universally condemned as malicious and in bad taste, because of a universal respect and empathy for death.</p>
<p>In this case, the link&#8217;s not even logical, with the supposed karmic retribution falling on a completely different party (or more accurately, 60,000 parties, half of which are Tibetan) to the supposed offender. Let&#8217;s take the Irwin analogy a little further. If Greer had said Steve brought his death on himself because he slapped his daughter for breaking her mother&#8217;s vase, do you think Aussies would have liked that?</p>
<p>Your ridiculous refusal to admit that Stone&#8217;s comment is revolting makes it obvious that it&#8217;s you that is trying to make some sort of political hay. Never let logic stand in the way of some China-bashing, hey.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 06:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought it was a revolting comment when I first heard it, but in context (with the &#039;apology&#039;) it is a bit more understandable. I have to confess that I had a similar thought to Ms Stone, only it was about the US government when 9/11 struck, and whether they may have brought it on their own heads with their hypocrisy and undue interference in Middle Eastern affairs. (Admittedly, there was a greater causal link here than &#039;karma&#039;, but one must adjust for stupidity). It wasnt really till I saw the jumper footage that I retracted.


It&#039;s easy to get disassociated and forget that there&#039;s real lives at stake when you&#039;re constantly bombarded with tragic news footage. Oddly enough the larger the statistic (60,000) the more often this seems to happen, like with Holocaust or Nanjing deniers. Of course, it&#039;s also true that the Tibetan monks are much more cuddly and lovable than the Chinese government and its tendency to ride rough over environmental matters and student activists. Not such much a racist thing as an Anti-Sino thing IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought it was a revolting comment when I first heard it, but in context (with the &#8216;apology&#8217;) it is a bit more understandable. I have to confess that I had a similar thought to Ms Stone, only it was about the US government when 9/11 struck, and whether they may have brought it on their own heads with their hypocrisy and undue interference in Middle Eastern affairs. (Admittedly, there was a greater causal link here than &#8216;karma&#8217;, but one must adjust for stupidity). It wasnt really till I saw the jumper footage that I retracted.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s easy to get disassociated and forget that there&#8217;s real lives at stake when you&#8217;re constantly bombarded with tragic news footage. Oddly enough the larger the statistic (60,000) the more often this seems to happen, like with Holocaust or Nanjing deniers. Of course, it&#8217;s also true that the Tibetan monks are much more cuddly and lovable than the Chinese government and its tendency to ride rough over environmental matters and student activists. Not such much a racist thing as an Anti-Sino thing IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: Variably</title>
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		<dc:creator>Variably</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somehow i missed the point. Probably lost in translation :) Anyway ... nice blog to visit.

cheers, Variably</description>
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<p>cheers, Variably</p>
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		<title>By: Overgrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Overgrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somehow i missed the point. Probably lost in translation :) Anyway ... nice blog to visit.

cheers, Overgrow
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somehow i missed the point. Probably lost in translation <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Anyway &#8230; nice blog to visit.</p>
<p>cheers, Overgrow<br />
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 18:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Until now i don&#039;t have a religion for myself  , I heard and learned about Budda from my Grandma ever since i was a child and this one thing i had learned is that people should be kind to each other and not to fight and to kill . And this always stay on my mind . Its surprise to me when i read from  many other discuss spaces like this one , a few of the Dalei Lama&#039;s followers and believers said that if The Chinese keep on treating Dalei Lama like that , then bad things even woser than this earthquake will happened  to Chinese people . IS THAT KAMA? Isn&#039;t that bad enough? Sound so alike Sharon Stone&#039; talk . When someone is not nice to your friend ,then that someone should paid with someone&#039;s life? So this is what those famous celebrities like Sharon Stone and other followers learn from Dalei Lama&#039;s teaching ? So NICE ,SO  KIND AND SO SPIRITUAL . Isn&#039;t he a religious leader? but more like a political figure to me.
These days, people are so mixed up inside their head. Someone asked her about the nature disaster,not about China and Dalei Lama . From what i saw from the video , she&#039;s just trying to show off that her talk  has substance and she&#039;s deep. But  A SHALLOW RIVER JUST CAN&#039;T PRETEND TO BE AN OCEAN DEEP. Wrapped under the glamourous surface is just a hollow with no soul , thats why they need to choose something to believe in and make themself look and feel spiritual and not empty.
No matter under what condition, i cannot accept what she had said about the Kama . But i think we should not use the abusive words to expressive our angry feelings to her. I don&#039;t want to be not nice like her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Until now i don&#8217;t have a religion for myself  , I heard and learned about Budda from my Grandma ever since i was a child and this one thing i had learned is that people should be kind to each other and not to fight and to kill . And this always stay on my mind . Its surprise to me when i read from  many other discuss spaces like this one , a few of the Dalei Lama&#8217;s followers and believers said that if The Chinese keep on treating Dalei Lama like that , then bad things even woser than this earthquake will happened  to Chinese people . IS THAT KAMA? Isn&#8217;t that bad enough? Sound so alike Sharon Stone&#8217; talk . When someone is not nice to your friend ,then that someone should paid with someone&#8217;s life? So this is what those famous celebrities like Sharon Stone and other followers learn from Dalei Lama&#8217;s teaching ? So NICE ,SO  KIND AND SO SPIRITUAL . Isn&#8217;t he a religious leader? but more like a political figure to me.<br />
These days, people are so mixed up inside their head. Someone asked her about the nature disaster,not about China and Dalei Lama . From what i saw from the video , she&#8217;s just trying to show off that her talk  has substance and she&#8217;s deep. But  A SHALLOW RIVER JUST CAN&#8217;T PRETEND TO BE AN OCEAN DEEP. Wrapped under the glamourous surface is just a hollow with no soul , thats why they need to choose something to believe in and make themself look and feel spiritual and not empty.<br />
No matter under what condition, i cannot accept what she had said about the Kama . But i think we should not use the abusive words to expressive our angry feelings to her. I don&#8217;t want to be not nice like her.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 00:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the thing that&#039;s most upsetting, is that she isn&#039;t capable of seeing the error of her own assumptions. Even within her apology &quot;It was a big lesson to me that sometimes you have to learn to put your head down and be of service even to people who aren&#039;t nice to you,&quot; China&#039;s Government is not asking for help, it&#039;s the victims who are asking for help. STUPID BITCH, i&#039;m glad ur lost ur job with DIOR in china. :) ... btw, what she&#039;s receiving now. IS karma. live to learn what karma really is. Take up Indian, Zen, or Chinese Buddhism ...cause obviously the DL isn&#039;t a true buddhist if u can talk shit like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the thing that&#8217;s most upsetting, is that she isn&#8217;t capable of seeing the error of her own assumptions. Even within her apology &#8220;It was a big lesson to me that sometimes you have to learn to put your head down and be of service even to people who aren&#8217;t nice to you,&#8221; China&#8217;s Government is not asking for help, it&#8217;s the victims who are asking for help. STUPID BITCH, i&#8217;m glad ur lost ur job with DIOR in china. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  &#8230; btw, what she&#8217;s receiving now. IS karma. live to learn what karma really is. Take up Indian, Zen, or Chinese Buddhism &#8230;cause obviously the DL isn&#8217;t a true buddhist if u can talk shit like that.</p>
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		<title>By: tibetan om</title>
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		<dc:creator>tibetan om</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 00:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] unhappy about the way Chinese are treating the Tibetans?? Then all this earthquake,all this stuff hhttp://thenewvoice.wordpress.com/2008/05/25/sharon-stone%EF%BC%9Athe-earthquake-is-karma/Image results for tibetan [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ed Darrell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Darrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Last of all, my government is not the China government. I AM A SINGAPOREAN. Go find out where Singapore is first before you make you bark again. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hey, I&#039;m not the one who took offense at her remarks.  When she criticizes the human rights record of the PRC and you take offense . . . well, where there&#039;s smoke, there&#039;s fire.

Not even the PRC has come unglued like this blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Last of all, my government is not the China government. I AM A SINGAPOREAN. Go find out where Singapore is first before you make you bark again. </p></blockquote>
<p>Hey, I&#8217;m not the one who took offense at her remarks.  When she criticizes the human rights record of the PRC and you take offense . . . well, where there&#8217;s smoke, there&#8217;s fire.</p>
<p>Not even the PRC has come unglued like this blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Darrell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Darrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Who in the context of ‘people’ here does she refers to??? Chinese people? Chinese government? &lt;/blockquote&gt;

It doesn&#039;t include you, unless of course you are personally oppressing Tibetans, or supporting the government&#039;s oppression of them.

If either of those applies, then you&#039;re making Stone sound saner all the time.  So tread more carefully.

Stone came out in favor of aid in that same interview -- there was no gap of time.  If you listen to the thing, what she said was that the Tibetans asked her to help before the interview, and she had already supplied her star quote to them.  So at the time of the interview, she was already on record calling for aid.

And though she didn&#039;t need to, she apologized.

Now, can y&#039;all be big enough to accept the apology, or will you continue to try to make political hay off the suffering of others?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Who in the context of ‘people’ here does she refers to??? Chinese people? Chinese government? </p></blockquote>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t include you, unless of course you are personally oppressing Tibetans, or supporting the government&#8217;s oppression of them.</p>
<p>If either of those applies, then you&#8217;re making Stone sound saner all the time.  So tread more carefully.</p>
<p>Stone came out in favor of aid in that same interview &#8212; there was no gap of time.  If you listen to the thing, what she said was that the Tibetans asked her to help before the interview, and she had already supplied her star quote to them.  So at the time of the interview, she was already on record calling for aid.</p>
<p>And though she didn&#8217;t need to, she apologized.</p>
<p>Now, can y&#8217;all be big enough to accept the apology, or will you continue to try to make political hay off the suffering of others?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 18:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before one criticize Sharon Stone, one has to find out what she actually said. It is wrong to read her comments out of context.

&quot;Well you know it was very interesting because at first, you know, I am not happy about the ways the Chinese were treating the Tibetans because I don&#039;t think anyone should be unkind to anyone else. And so I have been very concerned about how to think and what to do about that because I don&#039;t like that. And I had been this, you know, concerned about, oh how should we deal with the Olympics because they are not being nice to the Dalai Lama, who is a good friend of mine.

And all these earthquake and stuff happened and I thought: Is that karma, when you are not nice that bad things happen to you? And then I got a letter, from the Tibetan Foundation that they want to go and be helpful. And that made me cry. And they ask me if I would write a quote about that and I said,&quot;I would.&quot;And it was a big lesson to me, that some times you have to learn to put your head down and be of service even to people who are not nice to you. And that&#039;s a big lesson for me...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before one criticize Sharon Stone, one has to find out what she actually said. It is wrong to read her comments out of context.</p>
<p>&#8220;Well you know it was very interesting because at first, you know, I am not happy about the ways the Chinese were treating the Tibetans because I don&#8217;t think anyone should be unkind to anyone else. And so I have been very concerned about how to think and what to do about that because I don&#8217;t like that. And I had been this, you know, concerned about, oh how should we deal with the Olympics because they are not being nice to the Dalai Lama, who is a good friend of mine.</p>
<p>And all these earthquake and stuff happened and I thought: Is that karma, when you are not nice that bad things happen to you? And then I got a letter, from the Tibetan Foundation that they want to go and be helpful. And that made me cry. And they ask me if I would write a quote about that and I said,&#8221;I would.&#8221;And it was a big lesson to me, that some times you have to learn to put your head down and be of service even to people who are not nice to you. And that&#8217;s a big lesson for me&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Yamada</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yamada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For heaven&#039;s sake, this is just another disaster. Dun complicate things anymore ED BARREL!</description>
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		<title>By: Louis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 12:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel that what charles chen said is correct. Ed darrell should not anyhow say things when he havent got his facts right. This earthquake is not a political matter so he should shut his mouth and go to hell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel that what charles chen said is correct. Ed darrell should not anyhow say things when he havent got his facts right. This earthquake is not a political matter so he should shut his mouth and go to hell.</p>
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